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13 July 2010 12:57 Post ID: #495 - in reply to #490
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Lanarkian - 13/7/2010 09:40

David Begg is part of the golf commentary team at present on BBC Radio Scotland.



Thanks for that ... I sort of expected as he's done the golf coverage (alongside Richard Gordon) for the Scottish Open then The Open for a few years now.

With any luck he'll carry on for at least another two years if only so he can commentate on Scotland's games at Euro 2012... :)
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25 July 2010 12:45 Post ID: #710 - in reply to #108
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Colin Murray will continue doing the Friday night show on 5Live. Not sure about Sunday yet.
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26 July 2010 13:34 Post ID: #728 - in reply to #108
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Jim Proudfoot to commentate on Absolute Radio's live games with Ian Wright doing a live 90 minute show straight afterwards.
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26 July 2010 13:42 Post ID: #729 - in reply to #108
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Jim Proudfoot has been announced as the lead commentator for Absolute Radio's Premier League commentaries

Click here to read the article

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26 July 2010 18:00 Post ID: #734 - in reply to #108
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The word on DS is that Jim Proudfoot will no longer be commentating for talkSPORT from now on.

I guess the terms of his deal with Absolute must prevent him from doing games for other radio stations, although his ESPN work (Saturday games aside) will be unaffected, as Jim has confirmed on Twitter.

This means talkSPORT will need a new Champions League commentator on Tuesday and Wednesday nights. Nigel Pearson, Ian Danter, John Rawling, Graham Beecroft and John Anderson are all candidates, although what are the chances of them bringing a new voice in?
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26 July 2010 19:18 Post ID: #738 - in reply to #108
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If they did want a new commentator then a package of Premier League and Champions League commentary would be surely be very attractive to someone though I can't think of an obvious candidate.

Ian Payne back presenting 5 Live Sport tonight, said he was pleased to be back. I think he's an excellent fooball presenter and I hope he gets a regular slot. I don't think he's as good on other sports though, struggling a bit on F1 discussion at the moment and showing he's not the all-rounder that Mark Pougatch is.
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27 July 2010 13:45 Post ID: #799 - in reply to #738
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shaunofthespurs - 26/7/2010 19:18

If they did want a new commentator then a package of Premier League and Champions League commentary would be surely be very attractive to someone though I can't think of an obvious candidate.


I don't think they need one, although they have been linked to at least one "new signing" over the past year. But I personally think that in Ian Danter they have a commentator of very high calibre who can step up to the mark.

The last time Jim Proudfoot "left" talkSPORT (to concentrate on his Sky Sports commitments after Euro 2004), initially they approached Darren Fletcher from Century 106FM and he was pencilled in to do their first Premier League commentary of the 2004/05 season.

But as we now know he opted to join 5 Live instead and has been there ever since. So, they promoted Chris Cooper - who was presenting on Sunday afternoons at that point and had recently gone full-time with the station after leaving The Pulse of West Yorkshire - to the lead commentator role (Proudfoot's deputy in 2002/03 and 03/04, Graham Beecroft, wasn't an option as he had just become co-host of the Sports Breakfast).

Cooper did most of their Champions League and Carling Cup commentaries in 2004/05, including both finals, although by 2005/06 their live commentaries began to be shared out between Cooper and Nigel Pearson, with Pearson doing the Arsenal v Barcelona UCL final in 2006.

Around that point, Proudfoot returned to talkSPORT just before the 2006 World Cup where he was their lead commentator. Jim then left Sky Sports for Setanta at the beginning of the 2006/07 season, where he'd work at weekends with his new TV job freeing him up to do the bulk of talkSPORT's Champions League commentaries in midweek.

Cooper, having been frozen out a bit after the World Cup (not just due to Proudfoot's return, but also by having been overlooked for a regular presenting slot after Adrian Durham moved from weekday evenings to Drive - Proudfoot, Pearson, Danter, Kelly Dalglish and Rhodri Williams were all given presenting opportunities on various football programmes but he was not), left the station in January 2007 to join Century 105.4FM as their Manchester United commentator. He's now the Sunderland commentator for Real Radio in the North-East.

Since then, talkSPORT won Saturday 3pm Premier League commentaries for the following season, and between 2007/08 and 2009/10 we've heard Proudfoot doing most of their Champions League commentaries and Pearson on most of their PL games.

I think the above shows that talkSPORT aren't against promoting from within and also that they don't see it as a must to have one commentator doing all of their 64 Premier League matches and 20 odd Champions League games throughout the season.

Indeed one of the first moves UTV Radio made after buying the station in the summer of 2005 was to share out commentaries between Cooper and Pearson, rather than having Cooper do virtually all of them as he was during the last season under the previous ownership.

But then again, Bill Ridley was their programme controller back then, ex-5 Live "talent man" Moz Dee is in this job now. He's brought in a number of new faces in other areas of their live coverage (Saggers, Danny Kelly, Collymore) since joining the station in 2008 so who knows? They used twice as many different commentators last season than they had done throughout the two campaigns before it.
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27 July 2010 14:00 Post ID: #803 - in reply to #108
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Just a further point on Jim Proudfoot - for me it's strange that he'd give up not just a Saturday commentary on ESPN (a day he has not regularly worked on for talkSPORT since 2003/04), but also two Champions League commentaries per European week on a radio station that can offer him a role as their lead commentator at World Cups and European Championships, in order to join a station in Absolute who are only doing one weekly Premier League commentary, don't have an obvious further role for him, are newcomers to the business of covering live sport and may not still be in this business after 2012/13.

I can only conclude that the terms of the deal (ie money) Absolute offered him was a stronger package than what talkSPORT were offering or perhaps that ESPN have bigger plans for him in midweek which convinced him to make the move.

In terms of portfolio alone it doesn't make sense. To me it appears to be a backwards move to leave a station where you are the number 1 commentator, who have over a decade of covering football behind them and have the rights to a number of high-profiled games, in favour of joining a total newcomer to the field who are holding just one package of 32 lower-profiled league games with, dare I say it, some uncertainty over whether they'll continue to do these in three seasons time.

Edited by The Difference 27/7/2010 14:03
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27 July 2010 19:03 Post ID: #826 - in reply to #108
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5 Live's plans for the new season have been confirmed on the BBC Press Office site.

It looks like the presenter line up throughout the week on 5 Live Sport is the same as last season with Colin Murray continuing to present 5 Live Sport on a Sunday as well as presenting MOTD 2.

To make up for losing the 17.30 Saturday Premier League match the article also confirms that Sports Report will return to being a one hour programme at 17.00 and 606 will actually begin at 6.06 on Saturdays as well for the first time in a number of years. As I think has been known for a while there is also confirmation that it will be presented by Robbie Savage and Mark Chapman with Alan Green now presenting the Sunday version.
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28 July 2010 20:20 Post ID: #899 - in reply to #108
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100% agreement with The Difference's post above re Jim Proudfoot, seems a strange move for him.

A couple of things from the 5 Live press release, it seems as though the first commentary of the season will be the 3:00 Championship match on Saturday week. Disappointing that they are seemingly ignoring Norwich v Watford on the Friday night.

The only commentators mentioned are Ingham, Green, Murray, Dennis, McNamara, Fletcher and Brotherton. With the loss of matches I would expect these guys to dominate the Premier League and European matches with the likes of Adderley, Bruce-Ball, Sewell and Oates mostly limited to Football League duties and Sports Extra commentaries. Having said that Nigel Adderley has tweeted that he will be at Spurs on the opening day of the Premier League.

No mention of Ian Brown so I wonder what his situation is, I hope he will be back commentating after his long absence last season.

Nothing new on the summarisers front, though Chris Waddle isn't mentioned, I'd guess that's an oversight and he still be involved.

Finally tonight

Alison Walker reporting on Braga v Celtic for 5 Live.
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29 July 2010 20:28 Post ID: #934 - in reply to #899
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shaunofthespurs - 28/7/2010 20:20


A couple of things from the 5 Live press release, <snip> The only commentators mentioned are Ingham, Green, Murray, Dennis, McNamara, Fletcher and Brotherton. With the loss of matches I would expect these guys to dominate the Premier League and European matches with the likes of Adderley, Bruce-Ball, Sewell and Oates mostly limited to Football League duties and Sports Extra commentaries. Having said that Nigel Adderley has tweeted that he will be at Spurs on the opening day of the Premier League.

No mention of Ian Brown so I wonder what his situation is, I hope he will be back commentating after his long absence last season.


If 5 live don't want him, I'm sure Radio Wales might consider taking him back, as it would solve the issue they have at the moment with Newport County commentaries in that they've said they have no resources to.

With them now being in the Conference National, the BBC Local (or in this case National) radio station usually provide online commentary of games, you could have him and Jason Perry (ex Newport player) as a commentary team, and problem solved!
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29 July 2010 21:19 Post ID: #941 - in reply to #108
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Humorous tweet from Jim Proudfoot in response to people asking him about leaving Talksport:

"Enjoy our American colleagues and be thankful you don't get me doing basketball!!! That would be much worse than their calling of soccer"
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30 July 2010 14:06 Post ID: #964 - in reply to #899
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shaunofthespurs - 28/7/2010 20:20

100% agreement with The Difference's post above re Jim Proudfoot, seems a strange move for him.


Having thought a bit more about it, I can see the logic behind his move based on figures alone.

Absolute can guarantee him 32 games per season, which is more games than the 21 commentaries he did for talkSPORT in 2009/10, spread out over a more regular basis.

While the games Absolute can give him take place most weekends in a set timeslot, doing Champions League matches for a station like talkSPORT can be unpredictable.

If talkSPORT appoint a new Champions League commentator to do games on both Tuesday and Wednesday nights, then it's probable they'll be able to commentate on 12 matches during the group stage - but beyond then it all depends on how the station's teams progress.

Jim only did four UCL games after Christmas last season, two of which were Chelsea games (talkSPORT signed deals with Chelsea and Liverpool at the start of the competition, both of whom were out by the conclusion of second round).

He missed out on doing most of Manchester United and Arsenal's games due to the station being "locked out" of many of both team's home games. Then with all of the English teams out by the end of the quarter-finals, that saw the end of his UCL commitments for the season.

He got to do the Europa League Final, but how often do English teams get the final of that? And talkSPORT doing Liverpool's Europa League run was no good for Jim due to his ESPN commitments on Thursday nights.

The bottom line is, even if in 2010/11 two of talkSPORT's UCL teams make the final, then that would have provided Jim with a maximum of 25 commentaries, which is less than what Absolute (however less glamorous those games may be) can offer him.

Although that being said, if he's willing to work for Absolute on Saturdays, then you'd think maybe he'd have been interested in doing the same job on talkSPORT - although perhaps they are keen to stick with their Saturday Premier League commentator from the past three seasons, Nigel Pearson.


Just on the Tweet from Jim which SSReporters has posted above - that was in reply to a Kentucky-based Twitter follower. I don't think he meant that talkSPORT will be appointing an American commentator as his successor!

Speaking of Jim's Tweets, he posted an interesting message a few hours ago when asked about Absolute holding FA Cup rights:

Dont have FAC rights but the long term plan is to expand the portfolio So watch this space!


The bidding process for rights to FA Cup and England matches from 2012/13 onwards could be VERY interesting.

Edited by The Difference 30/7/2010 14:11
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01 August 2010 22:58 Post ID: #1049 - in reply to #108
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talkSPORT's new Saturday schedule, pencilled in for the first day of the Premier League season on August 14th, is as follows:

06:00 Fisherman's Blues with Keith Arthur
08:00 The Weekend Sports Breakfast with Mark Saggers & Micky Quinn
12:00 Matchday Live with Adrian Durham
17:15 Premier League Live: Chelsea v West Brom
19:30 Call Collymore from Stamford Bridge
21:00-00:00 Andy Goldstein's Sports Bar


No commentators have been confirmed as yet, although it's known that Stan Collymore will do the bulk of the co-commentaries on talkSPORT's Saturday and Sunday games.

It looks like Mark Saggers is staying on Saturday Breakfast for the time being, so no role in the live coverage for him, while Call Collymore has a new timeslot - 7.30pm to 9pm on matchnights. That's an unusual slot as talkSPORT evening shows tend to start at 7pm, 8pm or 10pm.

Adrian Durham continues in the Saturday 12-5pm slot he has made his own down the years, and it's likely he'll be joined by two studio or stadium based pundits for those five hours. On the pre-season shows, we've heard Ray Parlour, Steve Lomas and Ray Houghton in this role over the past couple of weeks.

Finally, my hopes are up that the 5.15pm start time for Premier League Live signals the return of talkSPORT's post-5pm considered full-time reports service akin to the football section of Sports Report, which was a feature of The Final Whistle between 2004/05 and 2007/08. Fingers crossed.
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02 August 2010 12:42 Post ID: #1054 - in reply to #108
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Nothings has changed for 5Live this season other than 606

Saturday Sport + Sports Report at 5: Mark Pougatch 606: Savage and Chapman
Sunday: Colin Murray 606: Alan Green
Monday: Mark Chapman
Tues + Weds: Pougatch
Thurs: Elanor Oldroyd
Fri: Colin Murray

The 606 change means that Alan Green is back where he orginally presented the show on a Sunday. This may mean that Green won't be working on a Saturday as he tended not to do Saturday commentaries anyway other than the bigger games at 12:45/5:15 (rarely did he do a late kick off last season).

I presume John Murray will still be doing Sat 3pm commentaries (I hope he is).
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03 August 2010 13:15 Post ID: #1060 - in reply to #108
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Sky will be sponsoring TalkSport and Absolute Radio's coverage of the Premier League this season.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/03/sky-sponsors-premier-le...
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03 August 2010 21:20 Post ID: #1073 - in reply to #108
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A clever deal from Sky's point of view. I'm sure they used to sponsor the breakfast show on Absolute too.
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